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Colleen, Craigatempin is in the Kilraghts Parish, near the Reformed =
Presbyterian Church. I have found some information on the family of this =
John Kirkpatrick & Isabella Torrens.
There Children were baptised in Kilraghts Presbyterian Church;-
10 Sept 1849 , John Kirkpatrick,
26 Mar ?/ May ? 1852, Samuel Chestnutt K...
Mar 1855, Eliza K.
27 Apr 1856. Frank K.
14 June 1858, Eliza/ David K.
7 July 1861, Agnes K.
There was a Sunday School at Craigatempin , which was held in a Barn =
until 1890 when I hall was erected, It was openned in 1892 and was named =
the Isabella Torrens Kirkpatrick Memorial Hall, as Isabella had been one =
of the founders of the Sunday School.=20
Her son Frank was the 1st Superintendant of the Hall, when he died in =
1930, he left a lot of money for its continuation. one of the =
Superintendants to suceed him was a Samuel Kirkpatrick.
Back to the Frank Kirkpatrick, He was a local Grocer and used to go =
around the countryside selling grocerries, and he also wanted my G, =
Grandfather James G. Torrens to help him buy land, but my G, Grandfather =
had already bought 28 acres for =A3300 in about 1913/14.
So after paying that much in those days he certainly couldnt afford to =
help out Frank.
I hope this information helps !!
Best Wishes,
Derek.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Colleen Morrison Robinson=20
To: 4qd-bannvalley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [4qd-bannvalley] LDS Torrens Marraiges;
To Derek:
Thank you for those certificate notes. The one of interest to me is =
the one I have saved on this reply. My great-great-grandfather was a =
John KIRKPATRICK. His son, William, was from Drumlee, Parish of Finvoy, =
and was a widower when he married Jane PATTERSON in 1872. It is =
possible that the witness on the following certificate was his father, =
John.
I have a KIRKPATRICK/TORRENS wedding certificate and wonder if these =
people are my great-great-grandparents:
March 22, 1847 At 1st Ballymoney Pres. Church, Parish of Ballymoney, =
Co. Antrim
Groom: John KIRKPATRICK of full age bachelor Craigatempin, =
Parish of Ballymoney
Groom's father: William KIRKPATRICK farmer
to
Isabella TORRANS of full age spinster Craigatempin, Parish of =
Ballymoney
Bride's father: Samuel TORRENS farmer
Witnesses: Samuel TORRENS and Samuel LAMONT
John KIRKPATRICK signed his name.
Isabella TORRANS made an X
Note the discrepancy between the spelling of the bride's surname, with =
an A, and the witness's signature, with an E. I think this would be the =
minister's error since the bride could not write.
Derek, I'm wondering if the John KIRKPATRICK who witnessed the =
marriage of James ARMOUR and Nancy TORRANCE was the brother-in-law of =
the bride, if it was the same KIRKPATRICK who married Isabella TORRANS. =
Or, it could be a son of John KIRKPATRICK'S witnessing his cousin's =
marriage.
Is Craigatempin south of the town of Ballymoney?=20
Colleen MORRISON Robinson=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Colleen, Craigatempin is in the =
Kilraghts Parish,=20
near the Reformed Presbyterian Church. I have found some information on =
the=20
family of this John Kirkpatrick & Isabella Torrens.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There Children were baptised in =
Kilraghts=20
Presbyterian Church;-</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>10 Sept 1849 , John =
Kirkpatrick,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>26 Mar ?/ May ? 1852, Samuel Chestnutt=20
K...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mar 1855, Eliza K.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>27 Apr 1856. Frank K.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>14 June 1858, Eliza/ David =
K.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>7 July 1861, Agnes K.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There was a Sunday School at =
Craigatempin , which=20
was held in a Barn until 1890 when I hall was erected, It was openned in =
1892=20
and was named the Isabella Torrens Kirkpatrick Memorial Hall, as =
Isabella had=20
been one of the founders of the Sunday School. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Her son Frank was the 1st =
Superintendant of the=20
Hall, when he died in 1930, he left a lot of money for its continuation. =
one of=20
the Superintendants to suceed him was a Samuel Kirkpatrick.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Back to the Frank Kirkpatrick, He was a =
local=20
Grocer and used to go around the countryside selling grocerries, and he =
also=20
wanted my G, Grandfather James G. Torrens to help him buy land, but my =
G,=20
Grandfather had already bought 28 acres for =A3300 in about =
1913/14.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So after paying that much in those days =
he=20
certainly couldnt afford to help out Frank.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I hope this information helps =
!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best Wishes,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Derek.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Denyawr@xxxxxxxxxx href=3D"mailto:enyawr@xxxxxxxxxx";>Colleen =
Morrison=20
Robinson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3D4qd-bannvalley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
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href=3D"mailto:4qd-bannvalley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>4qd-bannvalley@xxxxxxxx=
achsys.com</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 23, 2005 =
12:51=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [4qd-bannvalley] =
LDS Torrens=20
Marraiges;</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>To Derek:</DIV>
<DIV>Thank you for those certificate notes. The one of interest =
to me is=20
the one I have saved on this reply. My great-great-grandfather =
was a=20
John KIRKPATRICK. His son, William, was from Drumlee, =
Parish of=20
Finvoy, and was a widower when he married Jane PATTERSON in =
1872. It is=20
possible that the witness on the following certificate was his =
father,=20
John.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I have a KIRKPATRICK/TORRENS wedding certificate and wonder if =
these=20
people are my great-great-grandparents:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>March 22, 1847 At 1st Ballymoney Pres. Church, Parish =
of=20
Ballymoney, Co. Antrim</DIV>
<DIV>Groom: John KIRKPATRICK of full age =20
bachelor Craigatempin, Parish of Ballymoney</DIV>
<DIV>Groom's father: William KIRKPATRICK =
farmer</DIV>
<DIV>to</DIV>
<DIV>Isabella TORRANS of full age =20
spinster Craigatempin, Parish of=20
Ballymoney</DIV>
<DIV>Bride's father: Samuel TORRENS =
farmer</DIV>
<DIV>Witnesses: Samuel TORRENS and Samuel LAMONT</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>John KIRKPATRICK signed his name.</DIV>
<DIV>Isabella TORRANS made an X</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Note the discrepancy between the spelling of the bride's surname, =
with an=20
A, and the witness's signature, with an E. I think this would be =
the=20
minister's error since the bride could not write.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Derek, I'm wondering if the John KIRKPATRICK who witnessed the =
marriage=20
of James ARMOUR and Nancy TORRANCE was the brother-in-law of the =
bride,=20
if it was the same KIRKPATRICK who married Isabella TORRANS. Or, =
it=20
could be a son of John KIRKPATRICK'S witnessing his cousin's =
marriage.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Is Craigatempin south of the town of Ballymoney? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Colleen MORRISON =
Robinson <BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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