[4qd-bannvalley] McCann to New Brunswick? and Rainey - Dromane

[4qd-bannvalley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Thomas Moffatt)]

Hi -

I haven't come across those names in my own research. I hope you do
realize that the 1831 census for Drumane Townland in Tamlaght O'Crilly
Parish did survive - providing an interesting window on the area.

My wife's family is the one from Drumane - and the only two names I know
from there are the Mooney and the Johnston crowd. Both must have lived
near the northern edge of the townland, as all other relatives were in
Drumsaragh, nearby on the west.

Tom Moffatt


From 4qd-bannvalley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  Tue Jul 18 18:50:54 2006
From: 4qd-bannvalley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Robert Forrest)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 17:50:54 +0000
Subject: [4qd-bannvalley] Smirl/Smyrl
In-Reply-To: <ABEDIKKFDICIPOINMDAIIEBLJJAA.smyrl@xxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <BAY113-F3604C81744F8B0DF6351D4D5630@xxxxxxx>

Dear Steve,

You are welcome to the information;

The Hezlett records are quite substantial much pertaining to their own
family;

In my notes I jotted down the following
D/668/C/1-18 includes
Day books of Robert Hazlett & ors c. 1820-1860 - excellent source of
information - names individuals, transactions, tenants & persons in Dunalis
& Bovagh;

An account book c. 1800-1806;

A Memo book of extracts taken from Hezlett letters dated 1769-1770; examples
Craige, Crawford, Clenaghan, Wisely & Caldwell the occupying tenants of
Bratwell. A very interesting book.

A rent book for 1799 (excellent) examples - Alexander McCracken of Dunalis,
James Newton of Dalsbey?, Samuel Smirle of Belgarrow £13, Hector McAllister
paid arrears, William Smirl paid for George (Smirl) and holding.

I have more Hezlett details in another book which I will dig out for you and
I think that there is a later rental from the 1840's but only includes
William Smirl and not Samuel.

The absence of a Samuel Smirl from the 1831 census may indicate that he had
moved on?

Bobby

PS - I'm living in County Down but originally from County Derry.

>From: "Steven Smyrl" <smyrl@xxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: 4qd-bannvalley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: <4qd-bannvalley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>CC: <bobbyforrest63@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: RE: [4qd-bannvalley] Smyrl / Smirl (sic)
>Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:37:55 +0100
>
>Hello Bobby,
>
>Gosh, thank you for all that data you have sent me. I have recently been
>looking over the results of research work I did over 20 years ago on all
>branches of the Smyrl (sic) family. I have worked as a professional
>genealogists now for almost 20 years (in Dublin) but in all that time I
>have
>hardly done any research on my own surname! I suppose when one's hobby
>becomes one's living then perhaps some interest is lost? Anyhow, recently
>I've had various people contact me by e-mail asking me what I can tell them
>about their Smyrl ancestors. One chap proved to be quite closely related t
>me! Quite a bit of what you sent me I know I already have, although I know
>that I didn't have any of the material you sent me from Hazlett estate
>papers or the Flax list data. However, seeing the data as you presented it
>is rather like seeing something for the very first time. Samuel, William &
>James (although common enough names in the 19th century) are names used
>over
>and over again in my Smyrl family. This was just not the case in the Kilrea
>Smyrls - they tended to use Paul and George very often. The Smyrl family
>(which stemmed from the Kilrea folk) out at nearby Tamlaght O'Crilly used
>Archibald an awful lot. Mind you, it makes me think too that my memory
>tells
>me that George was used often too by the Dunboe folk. However, it hits me
>that of course Dunboe must be from where my Samuel Smyrl was from. I'd even
>like to think that the Samuel Smirrell (sic) from the 1796 Flax List and
>paying rent to the Hezlett estate in 1799 might just be him. Are there any
>other rent rolls for the Hezlett estate after 1799?
>
>I'll have a look through my old papers now and see if I can find what I
>have
>noted about the Smyrls of Dunboe and see if I can send you any information.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Steven
>
>P.S. Where abouts are you based, Ireland or North America?