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[Bann Valley] Inquiry about Vow

Dear Bannvallians,

It was 2009 when I had this dialogue with you; thanks for the information, I
hope to find my gg grandfather?s baptism some day, but these records are
hard to access.

However, it has suddenly become clear to me what my gg grandfather was doing
at Vow when my g grandfather was born in 1853. He was labouring on the
?Lower Bann Navigation Scheme?; he was a Navvy!! His elder son was born 3
years earlier at Coleraine, which is at the end of the ?canalized? Lower
Bann River. Vow is situated between the Camroe Lock and the Movanagher Lock
(see attached map), so I think it is safe to assume that my g grandfather
was working on these constructions at that time in 1853. All I can see of
Vow on the net is a Google Maps satellite picture; there would have been
some kind of temporary accommodation for the workers and their families when
construction was happening, but what is there now is not clear from the
photo. One thing I can see is a large quarry near Vow; could this have been
left-over from those days, and could this be where my g grandfather
(Lawrence) was working? 

I can assume that this was his line of work, because I know that he went-on
to labour on various rail lines in Scotland and Cumbria. Reading the web
page on the ?Scheme?, it is interesting to see that it was promoted as a
form of Famine Relief. I now know that the family came from Roscommon.

If anyone can ?fill this in? for me, I would be most grateful.

John from Australia.


Thanks Margaret; will take some time to digest all that!

Regard, John Cooney

Dear Mr. Cooney,
   The Townland of Vow is in the Parish of Finvoy and Electoral Division is
"The Vow"  It has been a while, but wasn't it the Torrens website that had
wonderful maps with colored dots to represent early churches according to
RC, Presby and CofI?  That would have been when the site was something like
4QD ~ before the change.  They were absolutely the best information. Maybe
someone can pin point those maps?

  My knowledge is limited, but Kilrea and Drumreagh are locations near "The
Vow" and have early Catholic and Presbyterian Churches. You might have good
results under those townnames. I think Kilrea is actually in Derry.
Kirkinriola and Rasharkin might have clues.
  Other help might be
 Google Search:
 Co. Antrim, Finvoy "The Vow" 1800  The first 4-5 cites look helpful.
 Co. Antrim, Finvoy "The Vow "Catholic Curch" 1800  Three cites

 1.  The Ballymoney Ancestry.com has historical maps and various lists which
may help you.
 A Google search, using the key words "The vow", Catholic church, Antrim 
brought up what appeared to be theology  2.  Search using Finvoy "Catholic
churches"1800 brought up a title called Church of Ireland Parishes. That
cite is
There is a lot of information, but did not see the answer you are seeking.
 3. http://family.kiwicelts.com has a contents page that listed County
Antrim Roman Catholic Parishes. Letters are too small for me to read, but
knowing that The Vow was s short area next to the Bann River. The Bann may
the boundary between Derry and Antrim.
   QUESTION: Is it possible that records of Catholic Churchs in Cumberland
would have information about a new transfer into its parishes?  My idea is
that churches kept such information as note on church records.
   COMMENT:  If I remember correctly the industrial revolution started in
early 1800s. Lanarkshire had coal mines and railways would have been needed.
Railways need constant repair. Ayrshire seemed to be a hub. Was Glasgow part
of the shipping network? Laborers would have followed work.

  I wish I could have given you an exact answer. Don't forget to scan down
pages at these cites. You never can tell what will help.

   Best regards,

> Morrison,
>      Thanks for your reply. This might be the crucial piece of 
> information; we shall see!
> I have a correction to make: Bridget Harrington was born around 1819 
> and was 10-12 younger than Lawrence. This opens the possibility, to 
> me, that there might have been earlier children and/or spouses 
> deceased, considering the dates. I read that the potato famine was 
> between 1845-1850; I wonder whether it was devastating in all counties?
> Cheers, John
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----
>> John,
>>       I cannot help directly with your ancestors but I have found an 
>> Edward Maurice Cooney who married Mary McAloney in Garvagh Roman 
>> Catholic Church on
>> 14 Jan 1868. Garvagh is in the civil parish of Errigal in the 
>> District of Coleraine in Co Londonderry. The village of Vow in 
>> slightly to the North of Garvagh and on the other side of the River 
>> Bann. It is in the parish of Finvoy in the district of Ballymoney. I 
>> am sure someone from the Bann Valley Group will supply more 
>> information, they were very helpful with a query which I had.
>> Regards
>> Morrison Stewart
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------
> How do you do! Greetings from Australia.
> I recently discovered from a marriage certificate that my Great 
> Grandfather, John Cooney, was born at Vow in 1853. His parents were 
> Lawrence Cooney
> b.1806 and Bridget Harrington b.1807. The family later migrated to 
> England, and appear in the 1861 Census at Netherby, Cumberland, where 
> Lawrence was a railway labourer. Since there are no records of Irish 
> emigration to England, this is the only clue I have as to where the 
> family came from. They might have been itinerant workers for some 
> landowner in the area, or have some longer attachment to the place, or 
> just passing through; I don't know. Any clues would be appreciated; I 
> would particularly like to know which 'Catholic' parish Vow would have 
> been in, and where John might have been baptized, and where any record 
> might be kept.
> Cheers, John

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